Summary

  • Loki's memories of The Avengers should be fresh in his mind, but the way he talks about them in Loki season 2 episode 2 makes it seem as if he perceived them to have happened a long time ago.
  • The events of Loki season 1 and the beginning of season 2 take place over just a few days, suggesting that Loki should remember The Avengers' aftermath as the present.
  • Loki's long lifespan and his time at the TVA could be causing him to misremember the timeline, or he could be describing his memories as Mobius perceives them in order to empathize with him.

Warning! This post contains SPOILERS for Loki season 2, episode 2Loki season 2 episode 2 puts the show's already complicated place in the MCU timeline into question with the God of Mischief's seemingly inaccurate memories. Loki has become a hero in record time since he was plucked from his timeline. By the time Loki season 2's story begins, the former villain has been able to take a look back at his life and reconsider his true "glorious purpose". However, Loki's heroic turn may have felt too sudden, even for himself.

Loki's experiences at the TVA take place outside the regular space-time continuum, making any attempt to pinpoint Loki's place in the MCU's chronological timeline a difficult task. From a normal perspective, everything Loki does in places like the TVA headquarters, the Void, and the Citadel at the End of Time seems to happen simultaneously in the past, present, and future, as well as never. Still, Loki's perception of time shouldn't change too drastically. So, if Loki still feels like time is moving forward normally, then his comments to Mobius in Loki season 2 episode 2 seem rather confusing.

How Loki Talks About The Avengers Events Doesn't Make Sense

Loki Season 2 Callback to The Avengers and Tony Stark

After Hunter X-05 makes Mobius lose his calm in Loki season 2 episode 2, Loki tries to comfort his friend by reminding him of one of his own similar experiences. Calling back to 2012, Loki confesses why he invaded Earth in The Avengers, saying "do you remember that time when I was so angry with my father and my brother, I went down to Earth, and I held the whole of New York City hostage with an alien army?". While true, the way Loki words his confession seems odd, as his memories of everything that happened in The Avengers should be fresh in his mind.

In fact, the last thing Loki should remember before he got captured by the TVA is him being taken away by the Avengers after the Battle of New York. Right after the TVA agents take Loki to their headquarters, Mobius shows Loki everything that would have happened after 2012, including his mother's death and his own death at the hands of Thanos. But since none of those events have happened yet from Loki's perspective, he should still consider the Battle of New York's aftermath to be the present.

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How Long Has It Been Since Loki Was Brought To The TVA?

Loki in The Avengers and Loki Seasons 1 & 2

Although the regular concept of time doesn't really apply to the TVA and other places outside the Sacred Timeline, events do follow a sense of causality, and characters feel like they're moving forward through time naturally. Therefore, the frantic events of Loki season 1 take place over what a regular person would perceive as one or two days, at most. The pacing of Loki season 2's first two episodes slows down considerably in comparison to season 1, which suggests that Loki finally had some time to rest after around two days of non-stop struggle.

Considering that Loki then brings the TVA up to speed, works with Ouroboros to fix the Sacred Timeline, searches for Hunter X-05, and examines X-05's TemPad, Loki season 2's first two episodes must take place over one or two days. This means that, to Loki, his arrest after losing to the Avengers in 2012 happened around four days before his confession to Mobius, and his wording of "remember that time when..." is out of character. However, Loki's memories could also be skewed for a different reason, or he could be wording his comments this way because of Mobius.

Loki's MCU history begins more than a millennium before the present time, as Loki's Ice Giant abilities give him an extremely long lifespan. Between Loki's countless memories throughout the centuries and his recent arrival at the TVA's timeless headquarters, Loki could be misremembering when exactly the Battle of New York took place. Otherwise, Loki could be trying to empathize with Mobius by describing his memories as Mobius perceives them. After all, the TVA agent must already be familiar with the entirety of Loki's life. Either way, Loki has been through a lot by Loki season 2, so his wording may not be a priority for him at the moment.

New episodes of Loki release every Thursday at 6pm PT / 9pm ET on Disney+.

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